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Is it Thomas Webb or Thomas Love #52 ancestors

May 27, 2020

Professional genealogist and podcaster Amy Johnson Crow has put out the challenge to genealogists and family historians, to write stories about 52 of their ancestors in 52 weeks. I am happily taking up the challenge, and look forward to writing stories, that will collate many years of research results. In most cases, the research for my ancestors is not complete, and possibly never will be complete, but I’m hoping to build a story of the lives they lived with the information I have to hand. I’m hoping to publish these stories in a book at the end of 2020. Each week a prompt will be given as the theme for the week.

Week: 22: Uncertain

For many years, especially in the early days of my research, which goes back about three decades, I’ve been totally confused, bamboozled and uncertain about one of my great great great grandfathersancestors. So much so, that I left him alone for a while, doing very little research on his line at all. But he was always in the back of my mind. As my method of research is to research all lines of my family, I was quite annoyed that I couldn’t solve this problem. I was a very young and inexperienced researcher at the time and wasn’t sure what to do about this naming problem.
I’ve since met up with a fellow family researcher who has also been a bit confused. Together we’ve put together the information that we do know, and hope that perhaps one day we will find evidence to clear up our questions.

Webb or Love?

Is the family name Webb or is it Love? He seems to have used both names at different times, either together or separately at different times of his life. Just to add to the confusion, Thomas’ son was named Thomas Albert but used the name Albert. This was possibly to avoid confusion with his father. Thomas Albert Webb was my great great grandfather and was married to Georgina “Minnie” Cox. His daughter Ada was my great grandmother.

Thomas Webb Love was born in 1822 in Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England and died in 1878 at Heathcote, Victoria, Australia. He was the son of Charles Webb Love, a baker, and Amelia Gibson. Thomas married Sarah Frances Pearce in Wiltshire. Thomas and Sarah had eight children.

  •  MARTHA FRANCES born 1845
  •  CHARLES JAMES born 1848
  •  FRANCES AMELIA born 1849
  •  CATHERINE born abt 1850
  •  THOMAS born abt 1850
  •  ALBERT THOMAS born abt 1855
  •  WILLIAM JAMES born abt 1856
  •  SARAH RACHEL born 1853

Thomas placed the following advertisement in the McIvor Times in 1868, using the name Webb Love.

from: The McIvor Times & Rodney Advertiser on 28 August, 1868.
“I hereby give notice that I am applying for a license to occupy one block of land of twenty acres, situated in the Parish of Knowsley, adjoining George Whiting’s allotments and intend to employ Mr. A. L. Martin, Government Contract Surveyor, to survey the same under the 42nd Section of the Amending Land Act, 1865. Thomas Webb Love”.
Thomas passsed away ten years later at Heathcote on 4th November 1878. His death certificate gives his name as Thomas Webb Love and names his father as CHARLES WEBB LOVE and his mother as AMELIA LOVE.

The following report of his death appeared in The McIvor Times. The death and official inquest documents referred to Thomas as Thomas Love.

from: McIvor Times 07 November 1878, page 2
DEATH: On Monday morning last, the residents of the township were considerable shocked by the intelligence that Mr. Thomas Love, a very old identity of the place, had died suddenly. The deceased was at work on Saturday at the new building in connection with the local Post and Telegraph Office, when he appeared in his usual health. After tea the deceased went to the Northumberland Arms hotel on business, and stayed there some time, and it is stated left there quite sober. He was subsequently found lying apparently in a fit, in Pohlmans street by his wife, midway between the hotel and his house. Mr. Charles Perry was called up by Mrs. Love and he assisted her in taking her husband home, where he died on Monday morning. On Monday afternoon, a magisterial inquiry was held by A.L. Wilton, Esq. J.P, touching the deceased’s death which according to the evidence of Dr. Scobell, who was called in to see him before his death and who made the post mortem examination, was due to collapse from an internal injury. The depositions taken at the inquiry will be found in another column. The funeral took place on Tuesday and was very numerously attended.

Vic BDM: Death Certificate 1878/1089
Public Record Office of Victoria VPRS 24/P UNIT 379 FILE 1878/1954
Graham Sleeth, fellow family researcher


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